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		<title>the fact that this has come up requires an answer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ted Grant</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, Politico writer Ben Smith posted about the efforts of freshman Congressperson Bill Posey (R-FL) to amend the Federal Election Campaign act so that all candidates for President must provide a birth certificate in order to run. I have absolutely no idea what kind of point Posey is trying to make, but then again, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, Politico writer <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Birther_bill_hits_Congress.html">Ben Smith posted</a> about the efforts of freshman Congressperson Bill Posey (R-FL) to amend the Federal Election Campaign act so that all candidates for President must provide a birth certificate in order to run. <a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/obama_mccain_us_citizens.html">I have absolutely no idea what kind of point Posey is trying to make</a>, but then again, I don&#8217;t have trouble understanding the difference between a &#8220;birth certificate&#8221; and a &#8220;certification of live birth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how Posey&#8217;s intended audience reacted to Smith&#8217;s post:</p>
<blockquote><p>I assume this would only pertain to &#8220;future&#8221; potus candidates- right?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>well..where is it&#8230;let America see it&#8230;.not some fuzzy internet copy..let&#8217;s see the darn thing&#8230;i have mine&#8230;you have yours or have access to it&#8230;LET US SEE IT..NOW</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>What bothers me is that it is so simple to just release the birth certificate and be done with it. Yet O&#8217;bummer won&#8217;t do it. Why?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>They lied about John Edwards cheating on his cancer stricken wife and fathering a *******.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, because the situations are <strong>exactly</strong> equivalent&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Whether you believe the truthers or not, the fact that this has come up requires an answer. Even 9/11 had a commission and answered the questions. I find the answer Snopes, Wiki and Real Clear &#8221; say so &#8221; isn&#8217;t complete or valid enough. The country demands better. Clear out the vitriol from both sides and see what the facts are.</p></blockquote>
<p>That, ladies and gentleman, was a classic &#8220;<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=concern+troll">concern troll</a>&#8221; in operation.</p>
<blockquote><p>taxpayer your are correct, they creamed for McCain to release his, and he did so.  But their lord and savior can hide his and nothing is said.  That&#8217;s change we can believe in.  He obviously has something to hide, otherwise they would have released it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, the President&#8217;s refusal to devote any more time to fringe conspiracy theorists is proof that he has something to hide.</p>
<p>The President has also refused to divulge the truth about the aliens who abduct me every third Friday night and dress me up in a gingham dress so that I can seduce sailors, and you know what that means&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>People who boastfully claim to have committed felonies, as Obama has with his cocaine possession, should also be barred from the White House, and they should also be forced to take drug tests to prove that they still aren&#8217;t snorting cocaine and smoking crack. Obama may have won votes from the MTV crowd when he boasted about inhaling drugs, but we need a President we can be proud of and one we can be confidant will have a clear head when making life and death decisions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, a man who <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_controversy">abused dangerous substances in his youth</a> has no business being President.</p>
<blockquote><p>This isn&#8217;t going to go away, and it isn&#8217;t just Crackpots who want to see his real birth certificate. Consider this: Thursday, March 12, 2009 Open Letter to the Secretary of Defense Open Letter to the Secretary of Defense Honorable Robert M. Gates, 3 Mar. 2009 Enough is enough! You must be aware at this point of the tempest brewing among the Rank and File. I am writing you in an effort to appeal to your sense of concern for the Military; a concern we share not only for the Military as a whole but for each and every individual who wears the Uniform in the Service of our Country. I am in this regard specifically asking you for your help. I implore you to not wait until the ?pot boils over? and we find ourselves in total disarray. I am convinced, beyond any doubt, that the moral well being and efficiency of our fighting forces to defend our Country is soon to be hanging in a precarious balance if not already. In my humble estimation this is NOT a theoretical possibility to construct a thesis or a contingency plan about. It is a reality and is happening right now. Resolution of this issue must be accomplished in the most expeditious manner available at your disposal to gain immediate relief to those of us who are struggling to fully comply with our sworn Oath to the Constitution while being conflicted by questions relating to the qualifications of the POTUS to hold the office in full and absolute compliance with the Natural Born Citizen Clause. Regardless of differences in the color of our uniforms, the color of our skin, religion or gender WE are Brothers and Sisters in Arms and our family is being torn apart. Are you not looking and listening to what is happening around you? How can anyone of good conscious stand by and let this happen to us? I for one cannot! You must care enough to intercede to stop this. Is this not within your power to do so? Why have you not acted already? What is it that you are waiting for? If you have any doubts of what I am saying is true you need look no further than the comments made on the Military.com site regarding the actions of Lt. Scott Easterling who, in my opinion, is an absolutely courageous young Army Officer. Irrespective of your personal opinion of his actions, one thing is abundantly clear; the horrible, hateful and demeaning things that were being said about him and one to the other among my Brothers and Sisters in Arms were things that I have NEVER experienced in ALL my years of military service. It is no less than gut retching to see this happening. The wounds that are being inflicted will NOT be healed by any Medicine I have at my disposal. There is nothing I learned in Medical School or in my training as a Flight Surgeon that can fix this; save the absolute power of Truth. The POTUS must stop concealing the documents once and for all and the issue of his qualifications must be addressed. Make no mistake; any adverse consequences to the troops as a result of your failure to act responsibly will be in large part directly on your head. Have you considered the legal ramifications for our fighting forces if for any reason the POTUS is not qualified. Are they in Iraq illegally? If so, does this make them terrorists under International law as the Islamic radical elements have been calling them? Have they given up their Geneva protections and do not even know this? If so, when captured can they be killed or tortured without International legal ramifications? Have they been stripped of the legal protections by the Soldiers and Sailors Civil Relief act? Are you willing to allow this risk to them when they are fighting for us? Once again I find myself at a loss of words to try to explain the abject and total dismay I have at the administration, to include the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, to allow the painful division now occurring in our military to proceed unabated. I hope that I do not need to remind you that you as well took an Oath to support and defend the Constitution. As a point of honor you are either willing to do this or you are not. If you are not, then preserve your honor, resign and let someone who cares more about us than that do what is right. I again respectfully implore you to act within your powers and help us. It is absolutely true and is my Prayer to my Creator to allow me to suffer the slings and arrows of being thought a fool rather than to have my convictions realized that persons of responsibility have allowed through negligence to have the Office of the President of the United States to be USURPED; it is self evident however, that whatever the outcome we must know the truth. V/R (Virtual Regards); Lt Col David A. Earl-Graef USAFR MC</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh&#8230;huh</p>
<blockquote><p>They need to introduce a bill that makes welfare and burdens on society unable to vote..this way Comrade Obama and the libs would just fade away</p></blockquote>
<p>All class, these people.</p>
<blockquote><p>Come on &#8212; his broken campaign promises and lies are being exposed more and more every day. Why is it so hard to believe he wouldn&#8217;t lie about his birthplace? He&#8217;s also blocked access to college records that could reveal more about his background. Bush and Kerry released their college records (so we all knew Bush had a higher gpa than Kerry). What is Obama hiding? College assistance based on his being a &#8220;foreign born&#8221; student? His disqualification could be the answer to the prayers of those who don&#8217;t want him to continue his socialist ways and his destroying of this country.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>While the 1961 long form birth certificate, which no one has seen, is important, that is a mere smokescreen to the real issue. On Barack Obama&#8217;s campaing website, quoting factcheck.org, is the actual issue&#8230; ?When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom?s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.?s children. http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate How can British law &#8220;govern&#8221; the &#8220;birth status&#8221; of a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; of the United States? Logic and common sense answer the question. However, whether a British citizen at birth can also be a natural born citizen of the United States under the Constitution is a legal question, which must be answered by our judiciary. Murder is wrong. And our judiciary has spoken on the matter. The judiciary should settle the matter: How can British law &#8220;govern&#8221; the &#8220;birth status&#8221; of a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; of the United States?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Scare&#8221; quotes make &#8220;silly&#8221; points &#8220;sound&#8221; legitimate.</p>
<blockquote><p>I AM SOOOOOOO TIRED OF ALL YOU LIBS CALLING ME A RACIST BECAUSE I DID NOT VOTE FOR THE MESSIAH, JUST LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CONSERVATIVES WE VOTED AGAIST HIS LIBERAL POLITICS NOT AGAIST HIS COLOR!!!!! ITS SO EASY FOR YOU LIBS TO ACCUSE PEOPLE OF RACISM HIDEING BEHIND A COMPUTER&#8230; LOOSERS&#8230; HOW ABOUT THAT GOTTALOVETHEGOP, BY THE WAY WHERE IS THE BC?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>To all you deniers that are too scared to allow the truth to be told for fear of learning that, in fact, your Messiah is an illegal alien usurper, just remember that the biggest problem with sticking your head stuck in the sand is that it leaves your ass sticking up in the air for everyone that passes by to give it a well deserved kick. This issue is not going away until the truth is laid bare for all to see.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Yes, I am desperate. Everyday I see this idiot Obama do things that destroy the fabric of this once great nation. The Federal government has become a cancer on the United States of America. It has metastasized in the state and local governments and it was the 16th amendment to the Constitution that began the growth of this sickening tumor. This cancerous blight grows and grows bigger and bigger year after year. We have now reached the point where enough people depend on the government for employment or handouts that they can swing an election. And the government grows. So forgive me if I am desperate. My grandmother escaped Russia by hiding in a train&#8217;s coal car after her father was murdered by the communists. I&#8217;m glad she&#8217;s not alive to see what has happened to this country. I&#8217;m putting my faith in the military in the hope that they will do the right thing and stop this madness. Someone needs to push the overcharge button. Errr, I meant the reset button and take back this country. The federal government needs to be a tiny fraction of it&#8217;s current size. Truth be told, you left-wing idealogues are truly incapable of simple comprehension. Do you realize, that in Bush&#8217;s eight years, the only constitutionally valid actions taken by the federal government were military actions and trade agreements. The constitution precludes the federal government from doing most of what it does today. Try reading it for once. It spells out what the feds can do and says that EVERYTHING else is reserved to the states, or the people. Most of us &#8216;desperate&#8217; people have been upset about this for a LONG time, but it is Obama who is putting government growth on steroids. I&#8217;m smart enough to make my own decisions and I don&#8217;t want or need the federal government to do it for me. If that&#8217;s what you want, maybe you should get the heck out of this country. It was founded on liberty but seems to be ending in tyranny. Signed, Desperate for Liberty</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Well this is really getting to be a HOT topic &amp; well it should be! BUT- forget the BC or the COLB, it&#8217;s far simpler than either. His Father was a Kenyan. In 1961 even Black men from Kenya had rights. Every Father on planet earth has the right to transfer his citizenship to his new born son! Baby O was born a Brit under the rights of his Father &amp; the British colony of Kenya. His mother was only 17 and to young to transfer her American citizenship to her son at birth in 1961. So whither or not he was born an American, he was born a Brit. Being born a Brit he can not be an American NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! At best he was a dual citizen born Brit &amp; American. Dual citizenships make you NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Remember these Obots are not to intelligent, they voted for an unknown quantity in the first place. They refuse to understand that &#8220;CITIZEN&#8221; &amp; &#8220;NATURAL BORN CITIZEN&#8221; are two distinctly different things. Arnold Swartzenegger is an American Citizen and Governator of whacko California, but he can not &#8220;BE&#8221; nor &#8220;RUN FOR&#8221; president, he is not NATURAL BORN! We appear to have elected a Brit as President of the United States. Wouldn&#8217;t our Founding Fathers back in 1776 have a few things to scream at us about if they could see us now!</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Congress should introduce a bill requiring the man posing as Paul McCartney to prove he is not the imposter who replaced Paul when he died in the &#8217;60s.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I think we can safely leave off there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Think Israel.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Thumb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So by now you&#8217;re all aware &#8212; right? &#8212; that 2007 Best Actress Oscar winner Marion Cotillard apparently said some things awhile back that indicate she A) believes the WTC attacks were orchestrated by the building owners and B) isn&#8217;t all that sure about this moon landing business, either. Still with me? Good. Okay, so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So by now you&#8217;re all aware &#8212; right? &#8212; that 2007 Best Actress Oscar winner <a href="http://imdb.com/name/nm0182839/">Marion Cotillard</a> apparently <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/03/02/2008-03-02_oscar_winner_marion_cotillard_dismisses_.html">said some things</a> awhile back that indicate she A) believes the WTC attacks were orchestrated by the building owners and B) isn&#8217;t all that sure about this moon landing business, either. Still with me? Good.</p>
<p>Okay, so <em>Times Online</em> correspondent Charlie Bremner broached the subject on his <a href="http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/charles_bremner/2008/03/there-is-nothin.html">blog</a> last week, and it turns out his readers hold strong, considered opinions both for and against Ms. Cotillard and her worldview&#8230; that is, when they aren&#8217;t misinterpreting her as saying 9/11 never happened, as Gail Johnson seemingly did:</p>
<blockquote><p>Another relative of mine SAW the planes hit the towers. It was the full jet fuel and where they hit the towers that caused the &#8220;implosion&#8221;. But I&#8217;m sure she feels that the Hollicoust didn&#8217;t happen too!</p></blockquote>
<p>Lisa offers a morsel of welcome perspective&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>So she made these comments a year ago before anyone had ever really heard of her? Ms. Cotillard is perfectly entitled to think and believe what she likes &#8211; as a great many are doing even in America. This &#8220;siutation&#8221; is being blown all out of proportion.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; which in a just and caring universe would shut the thread right down. But this is the Internet, where the laser-like focus of debaters such as Little Big Horn holds sway:</p>
<blockquote><p>(I&#8217;ve even been heard that a consequential amount of people nowadays believe that the Universe has been created 7000 years ago in 6 days by a Super Daddy praising capitalism, that His Son Jesus saved humanity (even non-monotheist vegetarians) from all sins, that real life/world was indeed after death, and not on the web and, please believe me&#8230; that the Pope&#8217;s chasuble is cleaned with a special new synthesis powder that makes water totally useless. It&#8217;s an acquaintance&#8217;s Swiss friend, banker in Vatican, who told me. No article about that?)</p></blockquote>
<p>One anonymous metallurgist/construction expert/grammarian leaps to Ms. Cotillard&#8217;s defense:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the history of Construction &amp; Engineering, no steel structure or building has EVER collapsed because of fire. WTC buillding collapsed, bur fire was not the cause.</p></blockquote>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t convince you, heed the words of no less an Authority than Yah Weh, whom you&#8217;d think ought to have the last word on the subject:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you think some `errorist` guys from a cave on the other side of the world had all of that happen, there is something wrong with you&#8230;.US Neo-Cons (Fas..) absolutely utterly complicit in these events. Think Israel. If you think this is outside the bounds of reality, you clearly do not know much of modern history, particularly US Military history. Enjoy your awakening.</p></blockquote>
<p>Naturally, many more comments follow, including <a href="http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/charles_bremner/2008/03/there-is-nothin.html#comment-105553590">poetry and&#8230; I guess you&#8217;d call it philosophy</a>?</p>
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