Comments on: I hope someone breaks a bottle over your skinny little dome at your next show.

By: BitterCupOJoe

BitterCupOJoe — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:20:41 +0000

Sorry, bit of a wall of text there.

By: BitterCupOJoe

BitterCupOJoe — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:20:09 +0000

That’s the thing: they didn’t get a pass. If you were a punk in the 80s, you could count on the possibility that actual violence being done to you for dressing that way/listening to that music/expressing that viewpoint, especially if you weren’t in a major urban center. And as to why the 90s kids got a pass, well, they didn’t entirely. It’s just that “being indie” wasn’t as big of a divergence then as it is now; Gen Xers were starting to really make a mark in entertainment and music industries, including journalism, and “popular” music largely wasn’t anymore. I mean, some acts like Madonna, etc. were still steady sellers, but the things that had been “indie” were suddenly mainstream, and there was the idea, especially among marketers and the press that the indie scene was likely to bring the next big thing, so abusing the golden goose was dumb. Of course, that’s not what happened. Instead, the things that were indie in the 80s became mainstream in the 90s, and were then tweaked from there by the pop producers that had been desperate to find things they could market again. Hence, the rise of nu metal and rap metal in the late 90s, and on through to current popular music which has not a damned thing to do with the current hipster scene. So that’s any mainstream “respect” (not really respect, just not wanting to piss off potential customers) gone, and the folks that were punk in the 80s or indie in the 90s look down on them because, well, intergenerational differences, but also because there’s a feeling that current indie music is self-indulgent whiny bullshit. Take similar music and put lyrics that are less, “Oh, poor suburban white boy” to it, and it’s likely they’d get a bit more respect from the older music fans.

By: Dayv

Dayv — Fri, 08 May 2009 06:46:57 +0000

Wait, when did John Lydon start wearing trucker caps and listening to house music?

By: Bridget

Bridget — Thu, 07 May 2009 22:55:19 +0000

“I implore all insecure Asian women”

What? Why?

By: Nate P.

Nate P. — Thu, 07 May 2009 17:03:29 +0000

I think by “hipster” you mean “every counterculture ever”. I’ve always wondered how zine-culture indie/punk kids of the ’80s and ’90s got a pass for this kind of snobbery until they started wearing trucker hats and listening to house music. I guess it’s cute when John Lydon does it.

By: BitterCupOJoe

BitterCupOJoe — Thu, 07 May 2009 15:09:02 +0000

Yes. Because it’s the openness to new experiences and the willingness to share them that people hate about hipster culture, not its dismissiveness of anything mainstream (even good stuff) and its cliqueishness. But you go on feeling oppressed there.

It’s quite possible to be knowledgeable AND friendly. If more hipsters were, fewer people would despise them.

By: Nate P.

Nate P. — Thu, 07 May 2009 03:52:20 +0000

Fuckin’ hipsters, always hanging around in record stores and video stores and threatening to expose me to relatively obscure shit I might potentially dislike, assuming I’d even bother to find out firsthand to begin with instead of just watching “South Park” reruns instead. God, hipsters should all DIE.

By: RJ White

RJ White — Wed, 06 May 2009 21:29:05 +0000

And you have read the rest of this site?

By: Jimmi

Jimmi — Wed, 06 May 2009 18:27:16 +0000

In the over all scheme of things: who fucking cares?